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两年前一张PPT神预言!Kimi创始人杨植麟长期投入RL Scaling,如今整个AI行业都跟着他走?

  • 2026-08-11 19:01:47
两年前一张PPT神预言!Kimi创始人杨植麟长期投入RL Scaling,如今整个AI行业都跟着他走?

2026年7月,Kimi K3炸翻了整个海外AI圈

所有人都在讨论参数、架构、榜单,2.8万亿参数,百万级上下文,稀疏MoE,长程编码与Agent工作流社交平台上,从硅谷到中关村,工程师们像拆盲盒一样拆解着K3的每一个技术细节

但一个叫Max For AI的人绕开了榜单和分数的讨论

他翻出了两张拍摄于2024年的老照片

照片里,一个年轻人站在会议室大屏前,手持话筒,身后的幻灯片上只画了两个圆球、一个箭头,

左边写着“Next-Token Prediction Scaling”,右边写着“Reinforcement Learning Scaling”

箭头从左指向右。旁边还标注着synthetic datatest-time compute

这张PPT的标题是:“新的Scaling Law”

▲ Max For AI重新公开的两张2024年现场照片:杨植麟在月之暗面北京办公室讲解“下一代Scaling Law”

那天会议室里发生了什么

时间回到2024年末。

月之暗面内部邀请了一批朋友到北京办公室,参观他们当时最新的数学推理模型K0-MathMax For AI是被邀请者之一。

让他意外的是:那天讲课的人,是杨植麟本人

Max回忆道,杨植麟略过产品与商业,讲的是下一代Scaling Law

PPT上的核心命题极其简单粗暴,AI的下一轮扩展,不再靠“预测下一个词”往死里堆,而是靠强化学习打开新轴

这是什么意思?

简单解释:过去几年,所有大模型公司做的事本质上都一样,把互联网上的文字喂给模型,让它学会"猜下一个词"模型越大、数据越多、算力越猛,就猜得越准这就是Next-Token Prediction Scaling

但杨植麟那天画了一个箭头,指向另一种路径:让模型像人一样“试错” 做数学题?先试一步,判断对不对,错了就回来换一条路做代码?跑一下,看结果,不对就修改重来。奖励正确,惩罚错误,这就是强化学习(RL)Scaling

放在2024年,这是一种判断。

放在2026年,OpenAI、DeepSeek、Anthropic、Kimi,几乎所有前沿玩家,都走到了这条路上

"他像一个还在实验室里的PhD"

Max还注意到了别的东西。

"聊商业、聊融资、聊市场,他都很平静。但一聊到架构、训练方法、数据细节,整个人一下子就兴奋起来了,眼睛都是亮的,能一直不停地讲"

后来他们去杨植麟的工位看了一眼,

那里看不到独立办公室。 工位只是一个特别普通的位置,和周围的人没区别,桌上放着少量日常用品

这画面他记到现在。

杨植麟,1992年生于广东汕头,清华本科,卡内基梅隆大学博士他的学术代表作XLNetTransformer-XL至今被NLP领域反复引用,两篇论文的核心问题恰恰都是:当序列变得更长,模型还能不能保持智能?

十年后,Kimi产品线上反复出现的“长文本”“百万级上下文”“长程任务”,像极了同一个研究者对同一个问题的持续执念

他博士导师Salakhutdinov后来接受Business Insider采访时回忆:大约2019年,杨植麟就倾向于相信,如果充分扩大规模,单一模型可以从自然语言提示完成多种任务,不必为每个任务单独建模

"那时候,这一信念并非所有研究者共享"

从箭头到论文:判断如何变成工程

▲ arXiv论文《Kimi k1.5: Scaling Reinforcement Learning with LLMs》,把会议室里的箭头变成了可复现的训练配方

2024年11月,K0-Math公开亮相品玩、Global Times等中英文媒体记录了这一刻:一个强调强化学习和思维链推理的数学模型,会在解题时花更多时间规划、反思与重试初代测试数据显示,在中考到竞赛级的多个基准上超过当时可用的o1-mini与o1-preview

▲ 品玩报道:月之暗面发布k0-math数学推理模型

同期,杨植麟在36Kr英文访谈中的表态更加直接:"Scaling law没有失效,变的是'被缩放的对象'以前优先堆算力和参数;以后,重点是通过强化学习精炼推理。"

然后是2025年,arXiv上出现了一篇名为《Kimi k1.5: Scaling Reinforcement Learning with LLMs》的论文摘要开宗明义:预训练的next-token prediction受限于可用训练数据;RL打开了新的扩展轴,模型可以通过带奖励的探索扩大有效训练信号

会议室里的那个箭头,终于从幻灯片走进了可被同行阅读的方法论文

K3:路线图的"兑现时刻"

2026年7月,K3降临。

▲ Michael Guo的平行分析:K3的成功并非偶然,杨植麟在GTC演讲中已提出"三维scaling"框架

观察者Michael Guo指出:三个月前的英伟达GTC演讲上,杨植麟已经把下一阶段扩展具体拆成了三个维度Token效率、上下文长度、Agent数量他明确表态:Kimi不打算靠训练更大的模型赢,而是投资底层机制,更好的优化器、训练稳定性、内存效率、长上下文架构、Agent集群

K3恰恰是这套论文的产品版本。

▲ "这就叫长期主义。当大家都在卷预训练数据的时候,人家两年前就认定RL Scaling是未来并死磕到底"

舆论撕裂:先知还是吹牛?

旧照放出后,评论区并不太平

支持者高呼“长期主义”,赞叹工程师作为领导者的稀缺气质有人写道:非常严谨的技术型、有AGI梦想的大格局创始人,我非常相信Kimi能走得很远K3也只是一个开始。

▲ 熊猫校长Ming:技术型有AGI梦想的创始人,K3只是开始

但质疑者同样激烈。

有人更尖锐地指出:私下交流中,杨植麟给人的印象是"满脑子商业变现"在这位评论者看来,创业成功需要这种特质,这也比"实验室PhD"的抒情描述更有说服力

两种印象相距很远。

照片和幻灯片文字是可核验的视觉事实"整个行业都走上了这条路"属于概括,"K3并非突然变强"属于事后解释赞美与嘲讽也只是观点,均非公司声明

尾声:答案写在那张PPT上

让我们最后回到那间北京会议室。

桌上摆着瓶装水和咖啡杯,笔记本电脑散落在围桌上,墙上贴着办公场所常见的提示贴纸一个1992年出生的年轻人,站在大屏前,讲着他认为这个行业接下来十年最重要的一件事

台下只有普通听众,记者席与直播镜头均未出现

只有一个随手拍照的访客,以及一张从左指向右的箭头

两年后,当全世界都在讨论那个箭头右边的词时,你回头看,

领先之处,并不只在Benchmark第一

而是两年前没人相信的时候,你就已经在往那个方向烧钱了

K3今天取得的一切来自长期积累。答案,早就写在了那张PPT上。

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  1. CONNECT:[ UseTime:0.001069s ] mysql:host=127.0.0.1;port=3306;dbname=h_sjds;charset=utf8mb4
  2. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `fenlei` [ RunTime:0.001786s ]
  3. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 0 [ RunTime:0.000755s ]
  4. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 63 [ RunTime:0.000712s ]
  5. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.001328s ]
  6. SELECT * FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.000625s ]
  7. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `article` [ RunTime:0.001487s ]
  8. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` = 546069 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001075s ]
  9. UPDATE `article` SET `lasttime` = 1786462715 WHERE `id` = 546069 [ RunTime:0.015046s ]
  10. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `id` = 64 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001171s ]
  11. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 546069 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.003937s ]
  12. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` > 546069 ORDER BY `id` ASC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001157s ]
  13. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 546069 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10 [ RunTime:0.001661s ]
  14. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 546069 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10,10 [ RunTime:0.016568s ]
  15. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 546069 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 20,10 [ RunTime:0.040157s ]
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