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明浩:同一代技术,两个系统,181页PPT全记录AI行业的2025

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明浩:同一代技术,两个系统,181页PPT全记录AI行业的2025

本期内容,由明浩老师提供,用了中美对抗的视角再讲点年度暴论

内容一共两个大的部分:中国和美国

每个部分有3个章节,每个章节又有三个小标题,简要来说如下

美国部分

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1、从模型到产品,从lab到公司

  • • 2025到底是什么年?2026年?
  • • “主桌”的比喻是不是要调整?
  • • 主桌上的玩家们到底在bet什么?

2、从产品到场景,从公司到行业

  • • 从Chatbot到Agent,从通用到垂直,从用户到收入
  • • 芯片、云、模型、应用
  • • 行业分工:为什么是coding?为什么是医疗?为什么…

3、从行业到市场,从市场到资本

  • • 一二级联动造就的史诗级大浪
  • • “数据中心”与“泡沫”
  • • 2026会是大年之后的又一个大年吗?

中国部分

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1、技术路线的祛魅与突围

  • • 写在DeepSeek R1发布一年之后
  • • 开源崛起与中美模型的“贴身肉搏”
  • • 从Chatbot到Agent

2、超级应用的前夜与黎明

  • • “亿级日活”是否等于已经“赢了”?
  • • 多模态的“中国式”繁荣
  • • 泛娱乐、硬件,全村最后的希望?

3、资本视角下的中国AI叙事

  • • 巨头们的AI组织调整与竞争
  • • AI在资本角度外溢到“硬科技”叙事
  • • A股牛市+港股IPO潮+一级市场回暖的共振

以下,是时间线

01:10 标题页:同一代技术,两个系统

02:04 之前其实做过年度总结

03:14 回归传统:中美对抗视角

03:30 AI帮我写了一段导语

04:14 美国叙事1

05:05 AI能力边界的进化

07:07 新模型疯狂发布的一年

08:09 一段AI视频记录过去的2025年AI行业

10:11 我们该如何记录这一年?+1

10:48 推理模型崛起

11:16 我们如何一步一步走到这里?

11:51 对应当前AI lab的架构

12:16 RLVR之年

12:59 RL环境搭建变得重要了

13:29 谁在搭建RL环境?

14:50 新时代的“数据民工”

15:44 红杉美国《2026,This is AGI》

18:26 自主学习

19:06 自主学习是不是等于L4?

19:43 所以出现了一批new lab

20:32 关于AI主桌的探讨

21:53 不同模型类型之间的表现差异

22:32 讲过很多次我给我家孩子做PPT的故事

23:24 notebooklm甚至“懂”什么是立体书

24:33 世界模型以及目前的两种技术路线:无限视频流/物理空间

26:01 御三家:Google、OpenAI、Anthropic

27:11 OpenAI不再领先

27:42 美国叙事2

28:10 Chatbot

29:11 OpenAI亮红灯

29:46 OpenAI VS Anthropic

30:36 OpenAI的策略:成年人全都要

31:13 Anthropic的策略:coding+一切

32:24 Chatbot到Agent

32:45 Agent战场

33:05 再往下分赛道

33:32 我们在用模型干什么?

34:02 2B AI的分类方式

35:02 这些行业带来了收入增量

35:41 技术成熟,解锁场景

36:05 收入快速增长

36:31 vibe coding这个行业

37:49 为什么大家都开始着重做医疗?

39:01 接下来会发生什么?

39:38 产业视角看AI

39:57 行业分工

40:51 “整个晋西北乱成一锅粥”

41:02 你中有我,我中有你

41:50 产业链角度看巨头公司

43:19 第四波软件的“大浪”

44:13 美国叙事3

44:35 我们到底期待一个多大的浪?

45:35 过去15年的三浪

45:59 一浪更比一浪强

46:26 市值增长

46:51 AI是核心动力

47:17 二级过去一年的表现 

48:12 那些大家伙们

49:10 mag7的叙事

49:41 4万亿美金的公司

49:56 泡沫与PE

50:22 一级市场的回暖

50:50 分阶段看一级市场

51:19 AI是核心议题

53:02 共识过于集中

53:23 快速提升的收入与估值

53:51 独角兽积压

54:14 IPO有所改善

54:30 并购大年

54:53 两笔收购给26年定了调

55:16 掏空式并购

55:44 数据中心的议题

55:51 云收入的增长

56:17 那些neo cloud

56:30 云厂商其他的可能性

57:00 云战场的五年期收入预期

57:12 算力算力算力

57:31 美国数据中心网络示意图

57:50 数据中心的衡量:GW

58:34 数据中心产业链

59:50 我们炒到了存储

1:00:21 问题简单了,需要多少钱?

1:00:57 钱从哪里来呢?

1:01:27 巨头们的capex顶得住么?

1:02:14 “债”

1:02:35 折旧

1:03:26 那些杠杆拉满的公司波动最大

1:04:15 Oracle的案例

1:04:46 股价上蹿下跳

1:05:15 Oracle这一年:白折腾?

1:05:51 标普500屡创新高

1:06:24 那2026的预期呢?

1:07:06 三角结构的变化趋势

1:07:39 再往前走那就应该是……

1:08:25 “泡沫”

1:08:31 OpenAI的新一轮融资

1:08:53 OpenAI阵营 VS Google阵营

1:09:39 产业链视角看需求的传导

1:09:58 需求-need more

1:10:24 大家都happy了……是吗?

1:10:44 谁证明了价值?

1:12:02 问题还是出在钱从哪来

1:13:04 按照一定利润率倒算收入需要到多少

1:14:07 所以我们到底相信谁?

1:14:20 台积电:相信我

1:17:06 市场周期曲线

1:17:43 “太硅谷叙事了吧?”

1:18:15 中国叙事1

1:18:33 DeepSeek发布刚满一年

1:19:00 直到今天影响依然被低估

1:19:23 为什么一定要在V4之前发布这个内容:给DeepSeek足够的尊重

1:21:06 中美对抗

1:21:29 把中国当成一个整体

1:21:51 开源的共识不仅仅是在中国

1:22:11 开源与闭源的竞争

1:23:14 群英大乱斗

1:23:53 其中超强的Qwen

1:24:14 我们离OpenAI多远

1:24:42 中国大模型从夯到……

1:25:17 2026年的模型技术发展共识--智谱

1:26:04 2026年的模型技术发展共识--Kimi

1:26:45 我们在追coding

1:27:07 Agent-从语言到行为

1:27:23 各种Agent,其实用户没有太强的感知

1:27:55 Skill

1:28:37 Skill会成为标配

1:28:55 中国叙事2

1:29:21 一些之前的结论开始出现变化

1:30:26 Chatbot依然是最核心战场

1:30:40 豆包在24年年底,就有被定义成“已经赢了”……

1:31:31 传闻豆包也拿到了“微笑曲线”

1:31:44 阿里和蚂蚁肯定不服

1:32:16 Chatbot战争升级

1:32:49 多模态的展开

1:33:04 图片模型榜单

1:33:20 视频模型榜单

1:33:33 多模态相关应用在国内的拓展

1:33:49 出海领域多模态也是密集分布

1:34:25 语言和多模态其实是一桌

1:35:19 中国的三家巨头:新BAT

1:35:55 AI硬件

1:36:16 AI玩具

1:36:42 AI+social的故事在海外

1:37:42 AI+social在国内

1:38:12 AI+乙游(对做游戏这件事情缺少敬畏)

1:39:15 这个领域的擦边和出海也是共识

1:40:51 量子位的AI 100榜单也是这些分类

1:41:38 中国叙事3

1:41:44 巨头们的AI全链条竞争

1:42:58 新BAT-字节

1:43:39 字节的硬件之心不死

1:44:02 新BAT-阿里

1:44:43 千问在阿里体系内的地位变化

1:45:51 值得单独说的蚂蚁

1:47:00 新BAT-腾讯

1:47:32 腾讯动了-社交/群聊/红包

1:49:22 春节红包大战再次……

1:50:00 老BAT的百度呢?

1:51:22 我没想明白两个问题

1:52:49 capex的对比

1:53:22 中国科技的新叙事

1:53:50 中美本质上是同步的

1:54:38 1%-2%估值原则

1:56:06 方向指明,那就开干!

1:56:35 一级市场整体数字趋势

1:57:00 分类角度

1:57:27 AI方向的投资额和big deal的中美共识

1:58:04 IPO

1:58:56 硬科技领域的退出

1:59:30 中美的AI与算力对抗结局推演

2:00:40 结束页:AI革命尚未成功

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  1. CONNECT:[ UseTime:0.001066s ] mysql:host=127.0.0.1;port=3306;dbname=h_sjds;charset=utf8mb4
  2. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `fenlei` [ RunTime:0.001993s ]
  3. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 0 [ RunTime:0.000759s ]
  4. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 63 [ RunTime:0.000710s ]
  5. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.001681s ]
  6. SELECT * FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.000908s ]
  7. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `article` [ RunTime:0.001672s ]
  8. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` = 466694 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001210s ]
  9. UPDATE `article` SET `lasttime` = 1775524850 WHERE `id` = 466694 [ RunTime:0.004993s ]
  10. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `id` = 64 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.000600s ]
  11. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 466694 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001089s ]
  12. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` > 466694 ORDER BY `id` ASC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001128s ]
  13. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 466694 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10 [ RunTime:0.001623s ]
  14. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 466694 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10,10 [ RunTime:0.001789s ]
  15. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 466694 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 20,10 [ RunTime:0.008993s ]
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